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[Dessu]

So i decide give my opinion on this topic since its locked and even though thing seems solved i just want to give my opinion in general about these kind of things. http://wowmod.eu/top...on/page__st__40


I think this is some kinda problem that admins/admins friends joke that kinda way to eachother and when other player understand "joke" or whatever wrong he carries coinsidences because this common "your not my friend,you cant say so, vanish, scumbag" *gagged, banned, silenced, kicked, evilrocketed, slapped, muted* For example i know tas irl, and when i joke about him/to him on server he took it as offense bcause thats not way admins should be treated, but when i got admins i can do that no problem, i feel that stupid. Besides, imo this instagag/instaban thingy or instasilence thingy is just wrong in these kinda situations. Ofc its understandable if some1 advertise/hacks and he knows his doing wrong, but in other cases like this, there should always be warning first so ppl know before punishment what they do wrong. Yes, in most cases this fixes those players (who are familiar to server or play it actively) attitudes instantly and punishment isnt even needed afterall.
I fully understand isucks rejoin since he wasnt given any info about what he did wrong and nobody told him before he ask himself, and then he gets ban on face. Its natural that human-nature feels that unjustiable(i think i got that wrong). I also understand stealthz, he just doing how the "protocol" goes, though not thinking so much in isucks point of view (text above) (note2: and ofc it was hurry situation as event was going on).
In general i think there shouldnt exist any kind of this "because i can i ignore you and punish how i want" (not pointing to any specific person!) but rather interaction between admins and players, (as mentioned before count hackers etc out of this) because afterall good community forms out of understanding and interaction between players, on long term "getting problems out of sight" (as we say in finland) doesnt really mean getting rid of problems.

E* Btw anyone else noticed huge drama/report player/report admin increase about from start of december. There was maybe 1 drama/report player/admin case during whole autumn and now it burst up o.o

Edited by Dessu, 23 December 2012 - 01:29 PM.

[Crypt]

Copied straight from the wiki: The admin is always right, he's allowed to make rules even if they aren't listed in here! If you see any unfair rules made up by admins, report on forums!
Warning, Kick, Short ban, long ban, permanent.

If you don't want admins to do what they want they punish them for not following protocol. And also the topic is locked for a reason, it was resolved no need to start another shit storm.

[isuck]

Thanks, well I think it is already clear what stealth and partly me aswell did wrong.
And there isnt that much admin drama, its not like they cheat or somthing just small annoyences, in general all the admins and event teams do a splendid job

[Dessu]

Dessu, on 23 December 2012 - 01:24 PM, said:

So i decide give my opinion on this topic since its locked and even though thing seems solved i just want to give my opinion in general about these kind of things. http://wowmod.eu/top...on/page__st__40


I think this is some kinda problem that admins/admins friends joke that kinda way to eachother and when other player understand "joke" or whatever wrong he carries coinsidences because this common "your not my friend,you cant say so, vanish, scumbag" *gagged, banned, silenced, kicked, evilrocketed, slapped, muted* For example i know tas irl, and when i joke about him/to him on server he took it as offense bcause thats not way admins should be treated, but when i got admins i can do that no problem, i feel that stupid. Besides, imo this instagag/instaban thingy or instasilence thingy is just wrong in these kinda situations. Ofc its understandable if some1 advertise/hacks and he knows his doing wrong, but in other cases like this, there should always be warning first so ppl know before punishment what they do wrong. Yes, in most cases this fixes those players (who are familiar to server or play it actively) attitudes instantly and punishment isnt even needed afterall.
I fully understand isucks rejoin since he wasnt given any info about what he did wrong and nobody told him before he ask himself, and then he gets ban on face. Its natural that human-nature feels that unjustiable(i think i got that wrong). I also understand stealthz, he just doing how the "protocol" goes, though not thinking so much in isucks point of view (text above) (note2: and ofc it was hurry situation as event was going on).
In general i think there shouldnt exist any kind of this "because i can i ignore you and punish how i want" (not pointing to any specific person!) but rather interaction between admins and players, (as mentioned before count hackers etc out of this) because afterall good community forms out of understanding and interaction between players, on long term "getting problems out of sight" (as we say in finland) doesnt really mean getting rid of problems.

E* Btw anyone else noticed huge drama/report player/report admin increase about from start of december. There was maybe 1 drama/report player/admin case during whole autumn and now it burst up o.o

In short please dont reply here if you dont bother even read what i wrote but go on offensive road straight away. Ps. i know rules.

[Bigi]

Well it is because admins making like a small group of friends where they think they are intitled to insider jokes and any1 who tries to joke with them or say anything that might seem rude can be punished-.- I am not pointing u out rescape, i know the tobaco got to u and i aint pointing any1 out.

For a community to enjoy a server they need to feel a part of it;O Doing things like this makes any1 else then admin an outsider.

[isuck]

Yup bigi hits the nail on the head, Admins should treat evryone the same

[Mazzeru]

Crypt, on 23 December 2012 - 05:09 PM, said:

Copied straight from the wiki: The admin is always right, he's allowed to make rules even if they aren't listed in here! If you see any unfair rules made up by admins, report on forums!
Warning, Kick, Short ban, long ban, permanent.

There was not any warning.
If I was gaged without explanation, I would also reconnect to ask why.
If I was banned for reconnect, I would also post here.

In conclusion, you did what seems right (for you) but you have not made any warning.

Something as easy as : isuck, you have been offensive, I will mute you for X minutes for doing so. Do not try to reconnect to avoid this sanction.

This would have avoid all this trouble.

[Raging]

Mazzeru, on 23 December 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

There was not any warning.
If I was gaged without explanation, I would also reconnect to ask why.
If I was banned for reconnect, I would also post here.

In conclusion, you did what seems right (for you) but you have not made any warning.

Something as easy as : isuck, you have been offensive, I will mute you for X minutes for doing so. Do not try to reconnect to avoid this sanction.

This would have avoid all this trouble.

Gag was the warning, Silence is the punishment.

[Evander]

Raging, on 23 December 2012 - 08:14 PM, said:

Gag was the warning, Silence is the punishment.

Gag=silence

[Stealth]

Evander.. Gag = CHAT mute = mic
Silence = both
Gag = can use mic
Mute = can use chat

[Evander]

Yes, but when someone doesn't have a mic, then gag makes them unable to say anything...

[Bigi]

OMFG EVA U SO DUMB!!! EVERY1 HAS MIC  DUUUUH^^

[Stealth]

You do realize, Valve has this thing called "Steam" In which you can easily add people, or tell someone to talk to me considering i have all the admins added?
But the topic was closed, so let's stop posting on this.

[Evander]

Do you realize that not everyone wants to have certain people in friends? It is called a FRIENDS, I wouldn't like to have there someone I don't like...

[Rescape]

Evander, on 24 December 2012 - 12:30 AM, said:

Do you realize that not everyone wants to have certain people in friends? It is called a FRIENDS, I wouldn't like to have there someone I don't like...

No wonder u deleted me...

[BonBons]

I feel obligated as an admin to have most if not all of the regular players on my friends list just incase they have any question I can answer or help. But that's just me so. Oh but I think we should lock this topic because the other one was closed for a reason.

Edited by BonBons, 24 December 2012 - 01:12 AM.

[Evander]

Rescape, on 24 December 2012 - 12:45 AM, said:

No wonder u deleted me...

Scape, no enchants, no luv <3

[Big Al]

All i can say is

[BonBons]

Big Al, on 24 December 2012 - 03:12 AM, said:

All i can say is

What?

PS I like ur pic l0l0l0l

[stinkyfax]

Stealth, on 23 December 2012 - 11:46 PM, said:

You do realize, Valve has this thing called "Steam" In which you can easily add people, or tell someone to talk to me considering i have all the admins added?
But the topic was closed, so let's stop posting on this.

forcing player to contact you via steam is just lame.