Jump to content


Questions


  • Please log in to reply
130 replies to this topic

#21 OFFLINE   Bill

Bill

    Commander

  • Members
  • 756 posts
  • Steam 0:0:28409595

  • PlayerID 47884

  • LocationCzech republick


Users Awards

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:12 PM

View PostArioni, on 16 February 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

I don't need to prove you anything. We aren't living in Russia, quit thinking everything's a darn bribing attempt.

Well..cuz u cant...u just trying to hide his fault..

#22 OFFLINE   Arioni

Arioni

    Field Marshal

  • Moderators

  • 1318 posts
  • LocationFinland


Users Awards

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:15 PM

Yeah sure. Also at the same time I'm hiding that I'm actually secretly gay because I don't provide you with chat logs of me talking about how straight I am with my friends.
"You're so retarded that you shouldn't go to sleep; you might forget how to breathe" - Wenneth Keld

#23 OFFLINE   Bill

Bill

    Commander

  • Members
  • 756 posts
  • Steam 0:0:28409595

  • PlayerID 47884

  • LocationCzech republick


Users Awards

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:26 PM

I end with my opinnion...Stealth just sold boss for 1 gold..end

#24 OFFLINE   Arioni

Arioni

    Field Marshal

  • Moderators

  • 1318 posts
  • LocationFinland


Users Awards

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:27 PM

Go away.
"You're so retarded that you shouldn't go to sleep; you might forget how to breathe" - Wenneth Keld

#25 OFFLINE   stinkyfax

stinkyfax

    Administrator

  • Administrators

  • 2675 posts
  • Steam xrushiov

  • PlayerID 1001

  • LocationUK

Posted 16 February 2013 - 02:37 PM

Posted Image
Tristen: Son of a monkey.

#26 OFFLINE   Porta

Porta

    Bureaucrat Mikey

  • Administrators

  • 944 posts


Users Awards

Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:12 PM

just.... lol... Pretty much like stinky posted :D

Quote

*DEAD* Evander : well, a little hack isn't a bad thing



[WC] Klashnekoff dealt 240% damage (140% KPR, 0% Low LVL)
[WC] (Your level: 85, Server average: 62, Klashnekoff's level: 85)
[WC] (Temporary Debug info). KPR INFO: kills - 9, rounds - 2, KPR penalty 30

^ not funny

#27 OFFLINE   Dessu

Dessu

    Marshal

  • Developer

  • 865 posts
  • Steam STEAM_0:1:9810151

  • PlayerID 24228

  • LocationJoensuu, Finland

Posted 16 February 2013 - 03:45 PM

View PostArioni, on 16 February 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

I don't need to prove you anything. We aren't living in Russia, quit thinking everything's a darn bribing attempt.
Where are "we" actually living? not in finland either. We are all around planet so you cant make that kinda assumptions, how about some1 lived in russia.
Gr8 b8, m8. I rel8, str8 appreci8, and congratul8. I r8 this b8 an 8/8. Plz no h8, I'm str8 ir8. Cre8 more, can't w8. We should convers8, I won't ber8, my number is 8888888, ask for N8. No calls l8 or out of st8. If on a d8, ask K8 to loc8. Even with a full pl8, I always have time to communic8 so don't hesit8

Quote

Bigi :  id luuuuv to see on discvoery channel tas in pony costume getting chased by a pack of wolves

#28 OFFLINE   lemon

lemon

    Knight-Captain

  • Members
  • 300 posts
  • Steam STEAM_0:0:7518506

  • PlayerID 1042

  • Locationbelgium

Posted 16 February 2013 - 04:13 PM

most ppl want wlock/priest boss since it gives LOADS of healing exp your able to get 30-60k healing done in that boss per round and not talking about the amount of mats....

Edited by lemon, 16 February 2013 - 04:13 PM.

Posted Image

#29 OFFLINE   Raging

Raging

    Marshal

  • Item Team
  • 886 posts
  • PlayerID Raging

  • LocationDanger Danger, Hight Voltage


Users Awards

Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:45 PM

Does Improved Shadowbolt increase the mini-Shadowbolts damage that come from Corruption ?
super hyphy (no sound) : stinky, can u make 82 uncommons better than 78 epics
Stinkyfax :i can make my mum better than your GF

#30 OFFLINE   Arioni

Arioni

    Field Marshal

  • Moderators

  • 1318 posts
  • LocationFinland


Users Awards

Posted 20 February 2013 - 02:51 PM

View PostRaging, on 20 February 2013 - 02:45 PM, said:

Does Improved Shadowbolt increase the mini-Shadowbolts damage that come from Corruption ?
Yes


wcGetTalentInfo(7,3,1,1,client,"increment",line); <-- Gets the improved shadowbolt info
new Float:talentbonus=StringToFloat(line); <--- Makes it a float called "talentbonus"
wcGetSpellInfo(race,spellid,"multi",line); <---- Gets the normal shadowbolt multi
new Float:multi=StringToFloat(line)+talentbonus; <---- Adds the multi & talent bonus together
new dmg=GetSpellDmg(client,multi)+basedmg; <---- Normal shadowbolt damage, multi + base damage
if(nightfall)
  dmg=RoundToNearest(float(dmg)/2); <---- Damage for mini shadowbolt
"You're so retarded that you shouldn't go to sleep; you might forget how to breathe" - Wenneth Keld

#31 OFFLINE   Bajjtish

Bajjtish

    Mannen, Myten, Legenden

  • Members
  • 830 posts
  • Steam STEAM_0:1:28908850

  • PlayerID 24089

  • LocationSweden

Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:33 AM

Q: Paladin/Warrior/DK are they Balanced as Tanks at Baws?

#32 OFFLINE   Arioni

Arioni

    Field Marshal

  • Moderators

  • 1318 posts
  • LocationFinland


Users Awards

Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:20 AM

View PostBajjtish, on 22 February 2013 - 05:33 AM, said:

Q: Paladin/Warrior/DK are they Balanced as Tanks at Baws?
Warriors are probably the best tanks at boss due to the amount of damage reduction skills they have. Paladins have team buffs and Death Knight tanks have a bit more damage than the others. Paladins / Death Knights heal themselves, while Warrior doesn't apart from one skill, but their heals are so small during boss that they don't even matter, so damage reduction beats healing due to all the healers healing you.
"You're so retarded that you shouldn't go to sleep; you might forget how to breathe" - Wenneth Keld

#33 OFFLINE   Bajjtish

Bajjtish

    Mannen, Myten, Legenden

  • Members
  • 830 posts
  • Steam STEAM_0:1:28908850

  • PlayerID 24089

  • LocationSweden

Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:28 AM

View PostArioni, on 22 February 2013 - 07:20 AM, said:

Warriors are probably the best tanks at boss due to the amount of damage reduction skills they have. Paladins have team buffs and Death Knight tanks have a bit more damage than the others. Paladins / Death Knights heal themselves, while Warrior doesn't apart from one skill, but their heals are so small during boss that they don't even matter, so damage reduction beats healing due to all the healers healing you.
Followup Q: WIll you balance that Later?

#34 OFFLINE   Wookie

Wookie

    The Path Preserver

  • Events Team

  • 2450 posts
  • Steam Wookie

  • LocationFinland


Users Awards

Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:30 AM

View PostBajjtish, on 22 February 2013 - 07:28 AM, said:

Followup Q: WIll you balance that Later?
Does not really need 'balancing' as they all can tank in their own way and tank is supposed to be the 'best boss tank' - I remember pre-reset when paladins/dks could out-tank warriors and it brought up a lot of complaints
Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired.
- Cave Johnson

#35 OFFLINE   Arioni

Arioni

    Field Marshal

  • Moderators

  • 1318 posts
  • LocationFinland


Users Awards

Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:48 AM

Paladins still have their own role during bosses; providing buffs. Balancing tanks around bosses would cause too many game play issues during normal play.
"You're so retarded that you shouldn't go to sleep; you might forget how to breathe" - Wenneth Keld

#36 OFFLINE   Bajjtish

Bajjtish

    Mannen, Myten, Legenden

  • Members
  • 830 posts
  • Steam STEAM_0:1:28908850

  • PlayerID 24089

  • LocationSweden

Posted 22 February 2013 - 07:59 AM

View PostArioni, on 22 February 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

Paladins still have their own role during bosses; providing buffs. Balancing tanks around bosses would cause too many game play issues during normal play.

Yeah but you can Balance Gameplay and Bossplay i guess thats how you Balance?

#37 OFFLINE   Wookie

Wookie

    The Path Preserver

  • Events Team

  • 2450 posts
  • Steam Wookie

  • LocationFinland


Users Awards

Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:02 AM

View PostBajjtish, on 22 February 2013 - 07:59 AM, said:

Yeah but you can Balance Gameplay and Bossplay i guess thats how you Balance?
You can't really balance both at the same time and the balance is around normal gameplay
Science isn't about why, it's about why not. You ask: why is so much of our science dangerous? I say: why not marry safe science if you love it so much. In fact, why not invent a special safety door that won't hit you in the butt on the way out, because you are fired.
- Cave Johnson

#38 OFFLINE   Aurora

Aurora

    Commander

  • Developer

  • 734 posts
  • LocationDenmark


Users Awards

Posted 22 February 2013 - 08:45 AM

Another way to look at this; Some bosses don't have that high a threat damage, thus the tankiness is less important than say threat generation, or just having a tank so it isn't the healers or rogues taking the threat damage, which while low might still be too high for those classes, in which case you might want a DK or a Paladin to tank as well, or at least they are capable of doing so.

They might not be as good tanks as the warrior is, but they do provide other benefits. Paladins can bubble up in an emergency, giving healers the time to regroup/ress people, maybe even get the main tank up again. Both Paladins and Death Knights got excellent selfhealing as well, meaning they aren't as dependant on other players to keep their health up. Thus forcing less people to play healers while still being able to kill the boss, or even being capable of taking for a longer amount of time without anyone else.

If you want to talk balance think on it like this; While the warrior might have the highest damage reduction, the total effective health he got (as in the total amount of damage pre-mitigation he has to take before he dies) is probably slightly lower on his own, but in situations with bosses dealing huge burst damage (like a mage boss with scorch) you might instead want to have the warrior tanking anyway since he can survive those bursts (instead of having the poor paladin die to an unlucky double scorch crit scenario). They each have their role, it might just be that we don't have as many bosses so you mostly see mage bosses, where warriors are the prefered class to tank.
Truth is but the lie in which people believe.
Happiness is stagnation, suffering is innovation.
Love them for what they are not.
The price of certainty is sanity.

#39 OFFLINE   stinkyfax

stinkyfax

    Administrator

  • Administrators

  • 2675 posts
  • Steam xrushiov

  • PlayerID 1001

  • LocationUK

Posted 22 February 2013 - 12:52 PM

It is not even that warriors have higher damage reduction but their skills and talents are focused on tanking, while other classes have way less.
Around once a month I get a flame on why paladins have more or equal damage reduction compared to warriors.
Tristen: Son of a monkey.

#40 OFFLINE   lemon

lemon

    Knight-Captain

  • Members
  • 300 posts
  • Steam STEAM_0:0:7518506

  • PlayerID 1042

  • Locationbelgium

Posted 22 February 2013 - 05:11 PM

will we ever have raids?
and...will we be able to actual tank them as warrior/pally/dk? cause atm even these bosses feel hard to tank and were not even at cata yet..
+dont forget the items nerf (way less dps now then before reset and lower hp and heals etc...)
Posted Image




0 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 0 guests, 0 anonymous users