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#21 OFFLINE   Tristen

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 03:45 AM

View PostOob, on 11 August 2012 - 12:39 AM, said:

Ya a whole 10% chance of hack slash going off... I'm more tempted to just roll a different spec (and I intend to). I think hack slash was 15% or something before, it hardly feels like it goes off anymore.

On topic: Knife damage is so derp unpredictable. I've hit for anywhere between 57 damage (with just backstab proc going off) and the 240 mentioned above. I usually get stuck having to RIGHT CLICK 2-3 times in the back. Then again I am low level rogue against similar geared and leveled characters, but I take a big risk trying to knife people in the back.

With the change to vanish and the plain fact that sprint and vanish make a unique (almost) noise AND have a lower durration trying to use either to knife someone is risky. I tend to just stalk and hope they don't turn around... Perhaps I'll make a bind to vanish and right click right away, so I can ambush backstab with out having the fear of the enemy turning around due to the vanish *poof* noise.


What if the *Poof* noise was for when a Rogue's vanish wears off (even if they slowly lose %invis%).
My reasoning: Why would a rogue announce their presence to an unexpecting victim?
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:14 PM

Current Meta: you heard a poof sound ? Spray and Pray eveywhere, sooner or later you hit him and break the vanish :P
edit: also maybe the sound on sprint should be removed ? :hmm:

Edited by Dead-Alive, 11 August 2012 - 12:15 PM.


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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:17 PM

View PostDead-Alive, on 11 August 2012 - 12:14 PM, said:

Current Meta: you heard a poof sound ? Spray and Pray eveywhere, sooner or later you hit him and break the vanish :P
edit: also maybe the sound on sprint should be removed ? :hmm:

Who does that ?

I just burst fire until I him for 40+ dmg or he tries to rape me.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:44 PM

what if no sound at all :D

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:47 PM

Sure, if you want it like that :)

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 01:05 PM

View PostPorta, on 11 August 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:

what if no sound at all :D

I use the Rogue-Dar.
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 03:00 PM

View PostPorta, on 11 August 2012 - 12:44 PM, said:

what if no sound at all :D

Perhaps there should be a sub talent for no sound when activating skills :3?! I always thought sub should be sneaky, but prepartion has been changed here and there and it still feels kinda meh vs trollgate and adrenaline rush (and now that prep restores energy its kinda like adrenaline rush... but adrenaline is of much more use not to mention the tier 1/2 of combat can be of a lot more use than tier 1/2...).

View PostRaging, on 11 August 2012 - 01:05 PM, said:

I use the Rogue-Dar.

Basically this, and if things get really bad (rogue spam wise) I will just center my radar and make it semi-transparent...

Along the lines of the topic: My previous points still stand and I want to add that vanish is more of a "sidestep" maneuver so to speak. Kind of hard to explain... Like I use it to avoid an enemy's gaze and get to a different position while they are reloading. Sort of like using blink offensively instead of for traveling around the map, blink to the side or behind an enemy so that they might shoot a few bullets into thin air or be thrown off because of the quick change of where you are (blink only makes a noise at where you blink from not where you end up at, I think).

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View Posttristen620, on 11 August 2012 - 03:45 AM, said:

What if the *Poof* noise was for when a Rogue's vanish wears off (even if they slowly lose %invis%).
My reasoning: Why would a rogue announce their presence to an unexpecting victim?

Wanted to add that this sounds really interesting...
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Posted 11 August 2012 - 08:09 PM

HP Nerf incoming which will greatly increase chances of 1hit ambushing with knives.
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