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Posted 27 April 2014 - 03:26 PM

Shield of the Righteous: Your next attack will deal increased damage, reduce the damage you take from physical attacks by 20% for 5 seconds and increase your next Greater Heal's effect by 50%. Costs 3 Holy Power, damage scales with stamina.

Templar's Verdict
Gives your attack small chance to deal extra damage consuming 1 Holy Power.

Both of them tier 4. Prot got talent that does same as templar BUT also add other huge things.

Also Sheath of Light. Seriously what were u guys thinking when u made this talent. Increases your DPS based on your spell power. Only way to get even close to effective retri build is not get spell power. This talent would have some use if it worked upside down but at the moment. Can't see why anyone would go this deep into retri tree to get this talent.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:17 PM

It also costs 3 Holy Power instead of 1 and has a cooldown of 8 seconds, and Protection Paladins have less ways of generating Holy Power than Retribution Paladins (their only additional way is by blocking attacks). The damage is a bit high though.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:19 PM

View PostArioni, on 27 April 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

It also costs 3 Holy Power instead of 1 and has a cooldown of 8 seconds, and Protection Paladins have less ways of generating Holy Power than Retribution Paladins (their only additional way is by blocking attacks). The damage is a bit high though.
I've never had any problems of generating Holy power on any specs I've played with. And trust me. I've played Paladin alot.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:27 PM

current tank pala in a nutshell:



Damage Given to "katze" - 1005 in 21 hits

Damage Taken from "katze" - 384 in 9 hits


I ambushed him from behind with an ak, he turned and instagibbed me with m4 (i got healed to full by zallan just before i went for him)

Katze:
Gear rating: 1263.2
ap 81 (procs) 66 base.
sp 69
49% dmg reduct
31% cs
Attack speed: 110%


Me:
gear rating: 1290.1
attack power: 94 base, + 28 procs
dmg reduce 32%
magic resist 16%
resilience 2 (less than 1% reduce)
crit chance 26%
armor penetration: 87
parry chance 11.9%, 30% reduction.
Attack speed: 118%

I had adr. rush on, so my attacks couldn't be blocked or parried.
I have the talent to penetrate 25% of his armor.



Zallan was shooting at him too, I don't have those statistics.

Edited by Tas, 27 April 2014 - 04:32 PM.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:35 PM

I rage quitted, done that a few times today to that paladin ;( So my console is gone... pls neeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeerf
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:35 PM

LeL I thought I was biased when I was personally afraid of what would happen if prot/holy was buffed
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 04:42 PM

View PostArioni, on 27 April 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

It also costs 3 Holy Power instead of 1 and has a cooldown of 8 seconds, and Protection Paladins have less ways of generating Holy Power than Retribution Paladins (their only additional way is by blocking attacks). The damage is a bit high though.

8 seconds ?! at least would've made it 20.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:02 PM

View PostArioni, on 27 April 2014 - 04:17 PM, said:

It also costs 3 Holy Power instead of 1 and has a cooldown of 8 seconds, and Protection Paladins have less ways of generating Holy Power than Retribution Paladins (their only additional way is by blocking attacks). The damage is a bit high though.
So he get's it twice in every fight. Nice.. :D

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:10 PM

View PostRescape, on 27 April 2014 - 05:02 PM, said:

So he get's it twice in every fight. Nice.. :D
Blergh, this is why tanks are annoying to balance. They do too little damage, nobody plays them. They do a moderate amount of damage, everyone complains.
Fine, I'll just nerf their damage back down. Hope you're happy :(
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 05:23 PM

I think its not good idea...maybe u should do some research and sit few hours on test server (if its up) and balance it, mabye take little dmg away..but if u now decrese dmg back, ppl will complain again...u know they gonna never be happy ;)

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:55 PM

View PostBill, on 27 April 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

I think its not good idea...maybe u should do some research and sit few hours on test server (if its up) and balance it, mabye take little dmg away..but if u now decrese dmg back, ppl will complain again...u know they gonna never be happy ;)

No, just no. Lvl a prot pally, let katze tell you (or just have a look-see) talent spec, get items and play.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 06:58 PM

Yay so lets nerf something literally one day after it is changed. And this patch wasn't even on the test server how the fuck are you supposed to balance if the moment something seems unfair its automatically nerfed.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 07:05 PM

Every single time Paladins are played people complain and we get nerfed, we are black sheep. :(

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 09:32 PM

Raging, dont be mad at me..now i m person who doesnt play and looks at it from "NEUTRAL" position, i see bunch of ppl "crying" (sory didnt mean litteraly crying) over how is pala now OP. How many times ppl cry here about some class being OP, and u almost never took their dmg or something, i just said it might need bit testing...tell us numbers, like how much does avrange old pala dmg, and new pala dmg..maybe it would tell us more, but took like 7 posts to nerf char..what the hell ?

Forgive my bad english i hope u undertand.

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Posted 27 April 2014 - 10:06 PM

That would be nice if developers excessively tested everything before pushing live, but we are not living in pinky land (except tas).
In reality, Hani is literally doing new things alone, and I would rather make him 10 changes instead of just 1, but well tested.
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Posted 27 April 2014 - 11:16 PM

View PostBill, on 27 April 2014 - 09:32 PM, said:

Raging, dont be mad at me..now i m person who doesnt play and looks at it from "NEUTRAL" position, i see bunch of ppl "crying" (sory didnt mean litteraly crying) over how is pala now OP. How many times ppl cry here about some class being OP, and u almost never took their dmg or something, i just said it might need bit testing...tell us numbers, like how much does avrange old pala dmg, and new pala dmg..maybe it would tell us more, but took like 7 posts to nerf char..what the hell ?

Forgive my bad english i hope u undertand.

I don't understand. Tas already did the testing for us.
We all played against katze, thought it was a bit unusualy tanky. Check talents and came to the conclusions some talents are too strong.
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Posted 28 April 2014 - 01:17 AM

View Poststinkyfax, on 27 April 2014 - 10:06 PM, said:

That would be nice if developers excessively tested everything before pushing live, but we are not living in pinky land (except tas).
In reality, Hani is literally doing new things alone, and I would rather make him 10 changes instead of just 1, but well tested.

Pinkyland is a good place to be.

You should try sometimes :D
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Posted 28 April 2014 - 10:28 AM

View PostRaging, on 27 April 2014 - 11:16 PM, said:



I don't understand. Tas already did the testing for us.
We all played against katze, thought it was a bit unusualy tanky. Check talents and came to the conclusions some talents are too strong.
u want make all changes depending on litteraly one fight? But as I said I don't play and I don't see it in game,  so u  must be right..

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 10:29 AM

Sorry for double post, my phone hates me :-X

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Posted 28 April 2014 - 11:07 AM

View PostBill, on 28 April 2014 - 10:28 AM, said:

u want make all changes depending on litteraly one fight? But as I said I don't play and I don't see it in game,  so u  must be right..

Hehe one fight. We duked out katze over 3 maps and 2 hours. We're not some casuals that come crying without finding out why he was so strong.
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