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#81 OFFLINE   Raging

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:01 AM

Are there still mages that blink into you with ak and mow you down with 3 shots + spells on fire spec ?
Could've sworn oob did that to my warrior constantly, what am i even btiching about, warriors have 0 resistance to begin with and getting killed by a mage in a single rush is OK
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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:02 AM

View PostBonBons, on 06 February 2014 - 09:46 PM, said:

Mage: I feel like there aren't many mages around because they don't scale. Or at least its one of the reasons why I don't play my mage. I have seen mages with barely 100 sd doing around the same damage as tiny's mage who had what like 170sd. Not to mention no 85 spell which makes getting 85 not a huge achievement woopdoo.
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Scaling for mage does feel rather iffy... The biggest difference between random decent geared mage and high geared mage seems to be the damage of blizzard / living bomb, especially the explosion damage on living bomb.
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Posted 07 February 2014 - 12:51 AM

View PostOob, on 07 February 2014 - 12:02 AM, said:

Scaling for mage does feel rather iffy... The biggest difference between random decent geared mage and high geared mage seems to be the damage of blizzard / living bomb, especially the explosion damage on living bomb.

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Posted 07 February 2014 - 01:44 AM

Can some one actually take a look at holydins :P
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Posted 21 March 2014 - 01:34 PM

What's going on with shamans t_t And prot/holy palas are a rare sight

E* And Concussion blow has no break damage, where as all the other spells like it, do.

Edited by Wookie, 21 March 2014 - 02:13 PM.

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 01:56 PM

View PostWookie, on 21 March 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

What's going on with shamans t_t And prot/holy palas are a rare sight

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 02:23 PM

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Posted 21 March 2014 - 02:44 PM

View PostWookie, on 21 March 2014 - 01:34 PM, said:

What's going on with shamans t_t And prot/holy palas are a rare sight

E* And Concussion blow has no break damage, where as all the other spells like it, do.

Shamans get more Crit chance and they do over 100 dmg hs with crits GG WP
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Posted 21 March 2014 - 09:35 PM

View PostRaging, on 21 March 2014 - 02:44 PM, said:

Shamans get more Crit chance and they do over 100 dmg hs with crits GG WP

So you are telling me a glass cannon class does damage?
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Posted 21 March 2014 - 09:54 PM

View PostBonBons, on 21 March 2014 - 09:35 PM, said:

So you are telling me a glass cannon class does damage?

idan^^ found the magical kickass formula for shammy and now wrecks with 150+ windfury headers.

Glass cannon ? Calling bull on that, every shammy i've met just survives my priest too easily.

Wookie might've suggested that parrying buffed agi spec classes hard.

Edited by Raging, 21 March 2014 - 09:55 PM.

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Posted 29 April 2014 - 08:53 PM

View PostBonBons, on 21 March 2014 - 09:35 PM, said:

So you are telling me a glass cannon class does damage?

Glass cannon? Sham Rage, Healing Wave, Healing Rain, Echo??? That's not glass cannon. Rogue is more of a glass cannon if anything.
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Posted 30 April 2014 - 03:33 AM

View Postdjango, on 29 April 2014 - 08:53 PM, said:

Glass cannon? Sham Rage, Healing Wave, Healing Rain, Echo??? That's not glass cannon. Rogue is more of a glass cannon if anything.

Ok lets look at this. Priest Silence. Paladin Silence. Any silence. The second you silence shaman they die instantly, they also don't do damage. But yea ofc if you just sit there they will tank a ton of damage.

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Posted 30 April 2014 - 12:58 PM

View PostBonBons, on 30 April 2014 - 03:33 AM, said:

Ok lets look at this. Priest Silence. Paladin Silence. Any silence. The second you silence shaman they die instantly, they also don't do damage. But yea ofc if you just sit there they will tank a ton of damage.

Okay so if you get silenced it's possible that you die within the silence but they still arent much of a glass cannon. I understand what you're saying though
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Posted 30 April 2014 - 02:02 PM

View PostBonBons, on 30 April 2014 - 03:33 AM, said:



Ok lets look at this. Priest Silence. Paladin Silence. Any silence. The second you silence shaman they die instantly, they also don't do damage. But yea ofc if you just sit there they will tank a ton of damage.
do mages, priests, warlocks perform better during silence?
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Posted 30 April 2014 - 03:33 PM

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