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Boss is sooo boring now?


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#1 OFFLINE   Klashnekoff

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:44 PM

[WC] Admin World of Warcraft:Cataclysm EU [UPDATED] Gave you 10000 xp.
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Damage: 114152 by Lenya
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So this new tactic that we do is wait for everyone to die then we have the backup priests res Lenya over and over. Then if we have 2 shamans that are good geared then we dont even need a real tank... as i cant hold even hold threat. so are tanks are the most pointless class now?

also they do retarded dmg. the boss has 157k hp and Lenya did 114k in one round?
So shamans have rockbiter now...
Windfury glyph heals a shit load...
and they have about 90 resistance...

So can we nerf this or will we just hope Lenya is there so we can kill boss.
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#2 OFFLINE   fuzzypenguin

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:46 PM

gg klash wins

#3 OFFLINE   Lenya

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:46 PM

Lenya doing 114k damage? Better nerf tanks

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:46 PM

healers don't do fuck all, they don't heal and they just sit and wait for everyone to die and then lenya is resurrected and they only heal him... GG fun for everyone!

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:48 PM

On a serious note. Give ressurect a threat, problem solved.

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:48 PM

gg shammy's arent topic now

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 08:51 PM

Because being able to deal 50k dmg to boss in 15 seconds is compltely fine.

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:07 PM

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:16 PM

Awp dmg was idea of hani... Boss remake is inc again since stats has changed kinda lot in 5.0

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:20 PM

Rockbiter is the problem and THE ONLY one here...

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:33 PM

Everyone ignoring the fact that 1400+ rating is also in the picture. But yes, rockbiter is boosting the damage alot
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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:44 PM

why was rockbiter reactivated?
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#13 OFFLINE   Lenya

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:49 PM

Dont know, think hani added it with increased mana cost.

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 09:55 PM

and by coincidence there is a talent giving you mana on hit :)
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#15 OFFLINE   Arioni

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Posted 20 December 2013 - 11:31 PM

Bosses need a remake in general...always been boring. I'll be giving Rockbiter a further increased mana cost during boss; I still think it ought to be enabled for when you want to burst. One of the things making it OP by having it active constantly is indeed Shamanistic Rage and the fact that Priests will just respawn Lenya. Another thing that I'd like to do is disable Resurrection, or make the boss heal to full health after getting out of combat if no-one has threat.
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Posted 21 December 2013 - 12:55 AM

I've pointed this RESS and WIPE game out, for a long while now. Make a WIPE a WIPE and not a fucking waiting game. Stinky even suggested to just make it so that once a boss has received a certain amount of damage it will start attacking anyone, regardless of treath.

This would solve the whole waiting and boring game.
If this were to happen then bosses would become harder and more fun EVERYONE instead the selected few priests and top tanks who just do all the work now.

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Posted 21 December 2013 - 01:31 AM

In real mmorpg's you always have a few people carrying the rest. I dont see the problem
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Posted 21 December 2013 - 01:49 AM

View PostFossen, on 21 December 2013 - 01:31 AM, said:

In real mmorpg's you always have a few people carrying the rest. I dont see the problem

100k dmg done to the boss of 150k hp...

That seems like one hell of a carry...

Rockbiter in general is strong as hell. Essentially making you deal nothing but magic damage, bosses have almost no resistance so rockbiter = 100s of dmg easy.

In normal play even, not many people have good resistance (or any really) and now shaman is basically 'enhance or gtfo' which is quite a joke.
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Posted 21 December 2013 - 01:53 AM

We did this tactic because we couldn't kill boss.
The last 2 rounds we did normal. Because we had better players and/or more healers?

View Postisuck, on 21 December 2013 - 12:55 AM, said:

bosses would become harder and more fun EVERYONE
If boss is harder we still can't kill the boss. Why is this more fun for everyone?
I for me, wouldn't play boss for ~40 min if we can  kill boss with just 30%, because he give only two 80 epics in avg.

Most players don't need 80e because they 85. Do you see something? Why a 85e would play boss and help others to get 80e?
Most players are low level and want xp and 80e. So boss should be killable with "lowlevels" and not with the help of lenya.
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Posted 21 December 2013 - 02:17 AM

View PostOob, on 21 December 2013 - 01:49 AM, said:

100k dmg done to the boss of 150k hp...

That seems like one hell of a carry...

Rockbiter in general is strong as hell. Essentially making you deal nothing but magic damage, bosses have almost no resistance so rockbiter = 100s of dmg easy.

In normal play even, not many people have good resistance (or any really) and now shaman is basically 'enhance or gtfo' which is quite a joke.
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