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#1 OFFLINE   Dessu

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 11:34 AM

Ok so once again stabby joins server and few mins after that makes sm_cvar bot_quota 18 to host this usual "private" event. No vote about adding bots, no heads up to those 3ish other players playing, no notification on steam group. Ive seen him done this several times, i've also heard from other players he does this.

Havent made report earlier since i thought he got warned about it/he stopped it, tho just 10 mins ago i witnessed it happen again myself. If you ask my opinion, what i see is using event admin powers for own benefit in form of supergood farming/leveling. As i see it, these botfarming "powerhours" dont seem to be for public good.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 01:09 PM

Sometimes when he's online, he usualy asks over mic (I was on when he asked), Never seen him do a vote or ask him in text. No notifications of said event was shown in group. I do like the events, I get to kill more than usual.
Im sure the lowbies would like this event even more and im sure stabby wanted to host it for ze lowbies anyway.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 02:24 PM

This actually helps people level up, so they wont be against it.

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 02:36 PM

This is about how Stabby handled the event, not the event itself. Bot events are great, I wish we would have more of them when we have low population and someone is on an 85 and everyone else is leveling lowbies or something.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 03:08 PM

As my first post states, there were around 3 players playing that time, some people in spec and none,  maybe 1 of them were lowbie. Also read what my first post states about how the "event" was handled :P

E* And bot events are okay in my opinion too, its just they should be hosted with purpose "help low levels, get people on server" not freefarm for few ppl.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 03:22 PM

This is hosting an Event for personal gains and that's a nono!

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 03:49 PM

Yea thats like putting a quiz late at night when you want xp like sure everyone will want it but is it ethical. There should probably be at least an event notification for others as right now it is not a community event but him just farming a fuck ton of mats.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 04:13 PM

What about Stabby tell us something about this ?

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:54 PM

PErsonal gain are you serious?

First of all I think it is a no go straight away try to accuse me and call head admin porta.

Secondly most the time I do vote or ask over mic.

Thirdly recently I have not done bot events since server is busy, dont believe me check logs.

Fourthly, I did bot event so ppl especially lowbies get kills, cuz when we have low pop they kill nothing especially when some lvl 85s like me around.

Fifthly, this means, either way with bot or without bots I get enough kills , I dont need to farm bots. Saying i put them on so i get more drops, rofl.  I put them on ppl not get bored and leave, but hey I make no more events whore my pally when low pop and go 50-5 stats yeah all ppl happy.


Guys espeically this goes to them admins, one thing I find totally disgusting is back talking and bitching. If you have a problem a concern , you can always steam me and I will react immediatly. I ask you, all of you have I ever talked behind your backs , I dont think so. I could make a comment here about an admin hosting 2 hours dm followed by a 1 hour hc , did I post or mentioned to other admin no I spoke to that person in personal. However in the case your style is to back talk may be you should reconsider your position.

Edited by Stabby Joe, 29 October 2013 - 07:05 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 06:56 PM

View PostStabby Joe, on 29 October 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

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Got em. Good defense, Stabby. /thread
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 07:11 PM

View PostStabby Joe, on 29 October 2013 - 06:54 PM, said:

PErsonal gain are you serious?

First of all I think it is a no go straight away try to accuse me and call head admin porta.

Secondly most the time I do vote or ask over mic.

Thirdly recently I have not done bot events since server is busy, dont believe me check logs.

Fourthly, I did bot event so ppl especially lowbies get kills, cuz when we have low pop they kill nothing especially when some lvl 85s like me around.

Fifthly, this means, either way with bot or without bots I get enough kills , I dont need to farm bots. Saying i put them on so i get more drops, rofl.  I put them on ppl not get bored and leave, but hey I make no more events whore my pally when low pop and go 50-5 stats yeah all ppl happy.


Guys espeically this goes to them admins, one thing I find totally disgusting is back talking and bitching. If you have a problem a concern , you can always steam me and I will react immediatly. I ask you, all of you have I ever talked behind your backs , I dont think so. I could make a comment here about an admin hosting 2 hours dm followed by a 1 hour hc , did I post or mentioned to other admin no I spoke to that person in personal. However in the case your style is to back talk may be you should reconsider your position.

You have to put yourself in the mindset of the person reporting you - and its nice that you put more bots to help low level players level. It's always a downer to play with 2 85s that stay on at night and 5 bots.

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 07:24 PM

View Postbandit, on 29 October 2013 - 07:11 PM, said:

You have to put yourself in the mindset of the person reporting you - and its nice that you put more bots to help low level players level. It's always a downer to play with 2 85s that stay on at night and 5 bots.


bandit Im more concerned how it was done, and this isnt the first time. Despite by now most ppl should know I host events to help server activity etc.... one thing I want, is to avoid  having a dead server again, so I try all I can to make most players happy

Edited by Stabby Joe, 29 October 2013 - 07:26 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 07:27 PM

Well, the people 'complaining here' are more mad about the fact they saw no event announcements even if it's irregular event aimed to increase server population during a low pop time.

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 07:28 PM

View PostStabby Joe, on 29 October 2013 - 07:24 PM, said:

bandit Im more concerned how it was done, and this isnt the first time. Despite by now most ppl should know I host events to help server activity etc.... one thing I want, is to avoid  having a dead server again, so I try all I can to make most players happy
Nobody wanted the 18 bots you just put on for 3 players (me+infi+hezo, maybe pacman too) you made a vote to REMOVE them, and it passed.
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Posted 29 October 2013 - 08:20 PM

I was going to stay out from this topic but i think its time to come and say something since i got pulled in to this...

In this case that "so low levels get more kills" argument is invalid.. I came to server and didnt see single low lvl...

Personally i get more bored if there IS bots than if there is 3 players per team without bots...

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Stabby, there is nothing wrong about REPORTING admin if there is any kinda things what needs to be fixed, like this one.. Its not about talking behind someones back, and i hope every admin/player report admins from forums, not to me, or not to another admin!
This is how we can keep track what happens in server.. and its more easier than talking over steam.. Since this way everyone can see how things go, and no need to talk with 10 different ppl when next possible thing happen..

Expample: "Dessu kicks Tas cause he is trashtalking, Tas decide to talk with Arioni about this.. Then Arioni talks with Dessu, and no1 else knows about it" Few weeks later: "Dessu kick Tas from server again, Just cause he wants to, Tas tells about this to Porta, and Porta talks with Dessu, No1 else knows about this"

So basically, in that kinda scenario Dessu would abuse his powers 2 times, and most of us could think that he didint do anything, or that he did it only once, but really, he did it 2 times, and that is 2x worse than 1 time (right?), so some kinda punishment should be given, but since no one knows that there was 2 abuses, no punishment are given


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 08:56 PM

View PostPorta, on 29 October 2013 - 08:20 PM, said:

I was going to stay out from this topic but i think its time to come and say something since i got pulled in to this...

In this case that "so low levels get more kills" argument is invalid.. I came to server and didnt see single low lvl...

Personally i get more bored if there IS bots than if there is 3 players per team without bots...

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Stabby, there is nothing wrong about REPORTING admin if there is any kinda things what needs to be fixed, like this one.. Its not about talking behind someones back, and i hope every admin/player report admins from forums, not to me, or not to another admin!
This is how we can keep track what happens in server.. and its more easier than talking over steam.. Since this way everyone can see how things go, and no need to talk with 10 different ppl when next possible thing happen..

Expample: "Dessu kicks Tas cause he is trashtalking, Tas decide to talk with Arioni about this.. Then Arioni talks with Dessu, and no1 else knows about it" Few weeks later: "Dessu kick Tas from server again, Just cause he wants to, Tas tells about this to Porta, and Porta talks with Dessu, No1 else knows about this"

So basically, in that kinda scenario Dessu would abuse his powers 2 times, and most of us could think that he didint do anything, or that he did it only once, but really, he did it 2 times, and that is 2x worse than 1 time (right?), so some kinda punishment should be given, but since no one knows that there was 2 abuses, no punishment are given


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My comment was more about, that he called you straight away, instead of speaking to me. My comment wasnt related to this topic which is legit. There was qq about infity and me being god like , so I thought would be nice add some bots so the others get at least some exp and kills.  I made vote afterwards and turned out ppl didnt want bots so I took them off. May be I should have done vote first , that is right and was my mistake.

Edited by Stabby Joe, 29 October 2013 - 08:57 PM.


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Posted 29 October 2013 - 10:11 PM

View PostStabby Joe, on 29 October 2013 - 08:56 PM, said:

My comment was more about, that he called you straight away, instead of speaking to me. My comment wasnt related to this topic which is legit. There was qq about infity and me being god like , so I thought would be nice add some bots so the others get at least some exp and kills.  I made vote afterwards and turned out ppl didnt want bots so I took them off. May be I should have done vote first , that is right and was my mistake.
Wait wait wait... This is a historic moment, did a German guy admit making a mistake?

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So, stabby made a mistake of making a bot event when there was no need, he realised it. Case closed?


Stabby, there were many complaints about bot events hosted by you.. Maybe the wisest thing for you will be to avoid hosting bot events? :)
In that case, nobody will be even able to complain about bot events hosted by you coz there won't be any :)
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Posted 30 October 2013 - 04:57 AM

I rarely post but I have to say that I agree with Dessu. When I was a lowbie(about a mouth ago), stabby joined the game and adding bots calling it "a small event". He asked us to follow him and kill bots, I was grateful for that. However, nowadays, I still saw him adding bots ,with no voting, and make "events"( Last time its like a few weeks ago). I started wondering if he just came and getting these silver and mats from healing and killing bots. It feels like he just come in and get some silver/mats without even notice of other players' feeling about that. Of his action, I feel really  disappointed.

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Posted 30 October 2013 - 12:46 PM

Maybe do a vote first to see if people want the bots before doing them?

That way the people complaining wont have any "weapons" to use against you if the vote passes.

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Posted 31 October 2013 - 09:59 PM

I remember the one time stabby put it on and said something like just kill the bots dont worry about me killing you.  Once the rounds started he'd just kill anyone including online players(which is normal) but ajibb was super pissed about it.  either way i notice the more he does it, the more people get off when he has it.  like one day i was on my low shammy so i did play a little, but as people joined, they would do one round and quit.  maybe they just didnt want to play, or maybe it was the bots idk. either way the bot event is kind of dumb.
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